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operated with a dictator ship of the speaker. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on footing. >> john boehner's office fired back -- senator reid should talk less and legislate more. the house has already passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff. >>> the president gets set to land in washington this hour. there's new word that the president has called all four congressional leaders. reid, mcconnell, boehner and pelosi. . joining me to talk more, we have peter alexander standing by at the white house as well as nbc's mike viqueira on capitol hill. some verbal smackdown, basically flipping the lights back on and harry reid taking to the floor to eviscerate speaker boehner. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we go through the fiscal cliff, obviously not encouraging. harry reid says time is running hout. he doesn't know if they could go through the legislative hur
and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or >>> heading over niagra falls in a barrel. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let's start with this. president obama and his republican opponents are about to go over niagra falls in a barrel, but nobody knows for shush how bad it's going to be. will the economy smash on the rocks below? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what they can do? what will prove stronger for obama and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or the power of niagra falls itself? joining me now is politico's jonathan ryan. how about an answer on that one? what's going to protect these guys more? the low expectations people have about them getting anything done or failing to do what they set out to do. they all set the deadline. they have the -- what do you call it. the stakes are clear, the payroll taxes, income taxes, you n
was negotiating directly with house speaker john boehner. they wanted for years of increases in debt ceiling a party, something republicans were not willing to budge on. without an increase in the debt ceiling, it allows republicans to engage the white house and democrats in yet another fight to cut spending in exchange for raising the debt ceiling, so that's the next fight that the next congress will pick up once it gavels in at noon on the third. diane: we are watching charlie rangel speak as the house members go around and debate the fiscal cliff steal from the senate. i also wanted to talk about , thursday at noon, a new congress in session. the steel expires. what happens at that point? if we don't get a vote now it's kind of a done deal. they start from square one? rich: basically. in fact, if this does not pass this evening, if we don't have enough votes to get this through in your basically at square one. you have to figure out exactly how you're going to deal with tax rates that have gone back to clinton narrates a broadbased tax increases on nearly every one u.s. bank of . that's w
it to the house of representatives where the president says the house speaker john boehner should put it on the floor, regardless if it gets the majority of the majority. that's the traditional way of doing things. the president said if any of the process fails, any of the steps along the way we outline, a senate agreement, vote in the senate, moving to the house, if it fails, the president wants a basic bill on the floor that sets those income levels at $250,000 above, to have everyone have their taxes rice rice. a lot of ifs and but, a flurry of last-minute activity, focused on the congressional leaders in the wes wing of the white house. >> like you said it will take a badda bing, badda boom to get this done. >>> joining me now is ed o'keefe and staff writer for "roll call," jonathan strong. thank you, both, for being here. i want to listen to more of what the president said on friday. i'll ask you about it on the other side. let's listen. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the m
suggested and that he is so far out on a limb it's going to be hard for house speaker john boehner to shove aside his fellow republican leader and not support him, not support getting this legislation through the house. otherwise, all those senate republicans, a vast majority of them that supported this will be hung out to dry. vice president biden, in fact today after he was on the hill, was just having a casual lunch at a sandwich lunch called pot bellies with staffers. he took a casual stroll back over to the white house and talking to reporters as if everything is still on track. in fact, when he was asked about this, he said he still thinks it's going to go through the house. take a listen. >> i hope so. i think so. >> what if the house sends the bill back to the senate? does it have a chance of passing? >> i think we're going to be okay. >> now we're told the vice president by the way ordered a meatball and prove lone. that's probably a good sign because they have another sandwich at that shop called a wreck. that's probably not a good symbol for how they want this to play out. >> i l
. the final tally, 257-167, and while 151 republicans voted no, it is worth noting its speaker, john boehner, voted yes, so did paul ryan, by the way. here is the deal that took over 500 days to seal. no tax hikes for couples earning less than $ 450,000 a year. itemized deductions, and unemployment benefits extended and alternative minimum tax adjusted for inflation. >> here is the deal. what the deal doesn't address is federal spending. drastic domestic and defense cuts have been put off for more than two months. looking ahead that could get messy if this is an indication, think about that. and also the debt ceiling this is the end of february this is now at 16$16.4 trillion and by e way, we just blew past that this week. the president drawing a line in the sand for that upcoming battle. >> i will not have another debate with this congress over whether or not they should pay the bills that they have already wracked up. the congress refuses to give the united states government the ability to pay these bills on time. and the consequences for the entire global economy would be catastrophic. fa
's horribly low expectations of what they can do? what will prove stronger for obama and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or the power of niagra falls itself? joining me now is politico's jonathan ryan. how about an answer on that one? what's going to protect these guys more? the low expectations people have about them getting anything done or failing to do what they set out to do. they all set the deadline. they have the -- what do you call it. the stakes are clear, the payroll taxes, income taxes, you name it. they put it all together. and if they blow it, who's going to get hurt the most? >> well, i think the republicans right now are hammering themselves in the foot over and over and over again. at some point they may figure out how to stop doing that. but in the short-term doesn't look like that's happening. i think the low expectations right now are only helpful to them if they can get a deal done. it's not clear that can happen. they may even fall short of these low expectations they've had for two years now essentially both sides the white house and the congress advocating their
-called plan b failed in the house, john boehner, speaker of the house said, look, it's up to the senate. we'll not do anything more. we already passed a bill a while back that would extend bush tax cuts for everybody. it is up to the senate to do something. you have senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, the republican saying it is up to the democrats to do something. we'll not do anything until president obama and the democrats come up with a plan and president obama actually late yesterday did call all four leaders, majority, minority leaders in the house and senate that includes mitch mcconnell and said the first time a democrat called him since thanksgiving to talk about this. so they're talking but there is no indication anybody is actually doing anything right now. gregg: what about harry reid? what's his, does he have anything at all maybe towards the end of the week he will put on the table? i've been hearing he will put to a vote an extension of the bush tax cuts for anybody making under $250,000 a year, extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million people that are about to lose
with a colegislation of some of the members -- coalition of some of the members. do you expect speaker boehner will bring the bill to the floor of the house for a vote at all, and is his speakership at risk? >> the answer to the second question about the speakership is, no. this is a legislative issue, not a relationship issue. to your first point, i think the statement is well written which is that we're going to take a look at it and bring it to the floor. we will consider it. now, whether or not we amend it and find something that can get more republican support remains to be seen. see what the house wants to pass with republican majority. but i take my hat off to the leadership of at least giving the senate bill a vote. it's something that the senate has not done for us in a long time. so i'm glad to see we're going to be taking it up again. the house does go to session at 12, we're meeting at 1, so no chance we would vote on it before 1:00. heather: okay. you could amend it, how much longer would that take, add in the amendments, change it, and then where do we go? >> it depends. my guess
when fo mcconnell when for a longtime we were hearing it rested in boehner's hands. >> first it was boehner and obama, they failed to get a grand bargain. john boehner was unable to pass his plan b debt reduction bill and they decided to go in another way. boehner said let's see what the senate can do. we saw senator reid and mitch mcconnell try to get a deal, that failed. now mcconnell and biden who have a very good relationship. they worked on extending the tax breaks in 2010 they are trying it. the clock is ticking. the public is going to have to read this bill and members will demand that they read this bill before they vote on it and that's why we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> great to have you here today. i know the clock is ticking. i know you're watching it closely. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. gregg. jon: a new report on the terror attack on our consulate in libya. who they are blaming for the deaths of four americans including our ambassador. a french court says goodbye to that country's controversial 75% tax rate on the wealthy. don't you wis
't raise taxes and we shouldn't raise them at all but can't do more than john boehner's plan b, and didn't go to a vote. >> one for million. icle >> it would raise you billion in revenue. they were not for it in the first place but maybe get something through if obama willing to cut. obama administration said if you pass it in the house and september passed it, obama would veto it anyway. they are so far apart. this i am flying back from hawaii and see if i can bring them back together. they are far apart as they have been. >> kelly: why are they having the meeting? because of the talk and rhetoric is ramping up and the agreement is going down. i mean, for example, senate majority leader harry reid is name calling and calling john boehner a dictator . this is what he had to say. >> the american people i don't think the house representative is operating without the house of representative. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the house and representatives to get what they want. >> that sounds ridiculous f. it was a dictatorship boehner
that the bill was being pulled. i don't enjoy saying this. i consider myself a personal friend of john boehner, and john boehner personally has been very helpful to me over the years. so it pains me to say this. the fact is dismissive attitude that was shown last night toward new york, new jersey, connecticut typifies i believe a strain in the republican party. i know this is not the place to discuss politics, but that politics seeps over into a governmental decision that was made. i can't imagine that type of indifference, that type of disregard, that cavalier attitude being shown to any other part of the country when people we are talking about real life and death situations here, just have the speaker walk off and not tell us. tell an aide to the majority leader who tells us that we tell the majority leader that the item that means life and death was taken off the calendar and is gone for this session? they say it's going to be brought back up in january. the fact is let's be real. we are not in session next week. the following week we are in session for two days. the following week is the
speaker boehner an exit and give the president an exit and tell these people to play nice in the sandbox and get over it. >> am i going first? adam: you go ahead. >> the sequester is leverage point. for a while therepublicans seemed this was their problem they need to fix. now they're viewing it as president's problem. he likes to spend. maybe you get a very good tax deal with that as the lerage. adam: lindsey. >> honestly i don't think it make as difference. the conversation we're having in washington is so disingenuous. talking about 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities and we're arguing 800 billion in tax increases on 2% of the population we're still not asking tough questions of the middle last. i don't think it matters whether president's plan or republicans plan i don't think it is imagine. adam: i'm shocked you would imply anybody in washington would ever be disingenuous. lindsey and james, thank you very much. we'll talk about the fiscal cliff ad knaus see yum. that's what we do when you're talking about the economy. appreciate you both being here. it is the fiscal cliff gridlock
day. >>brian: why wouldn't they be. when you went to bed, john boehner served up two possibilities. one you could vote on the senate bill which passed overwhelmingly. two, the house might amend the senate bill and add a bunch of spending. he didn't have enough votes for that entree and in the end a whole bunch of republicans voted for the senate bill, although a whole bunch of republicans voted against the senate bill. it has passed. >>juliet: pretty amazing all the drama over the last 48 hours as opposed to nothing happening over the 48 years. let's take a breakdown. here's a look at how we break down the numbers. $622 billion is what we're seeing in new tax hikes, just $15 billion in spending cuts. we'll get more on that later. $1 spending cut for every $41 in tax hikes. that is pretty much what it amounts to. >>brian: the dollar in spending cuts for every $41 in tax hikes that is for the first year. in ten years it is going to be $1 worth of spending cuts for every $10 of tax hikes. for a lot of republicans, they go that is a lousy deal. >>brian: we're basically reviewing the sa
to be rushed through both chambers of congress. house speaker boehner and his rank and file are sitting on the sidelines waiting to see if it will be a deal or no deal from the senate. >> this whole thing is a national embarrassment. i think it's an embarrassment to the president. it's an embarrassment to both sides of the aisle and both the house and the senate. >> how do you get out of it? >> first of all, whatever happens today is really inconsequential. >> ultimately, you're going to have to have people come together in a bipartisan way to get this done. you're not going to be able to get an agreement passed with just republicans. >> republicans simply can't utter the word "yes." they cannot utter the word "yes" without them uttering the word "yes" we can't get a deal. look, this is -- i feel like you're talking to a 5-year-old and, you know, saying, look. you have to eat your vegetables. >> we went over the cliff a long time ago. we just didn't know it. look at the leadership that we have leading us. i mean, it's like lemmings. come on. >> all right. that's what's being said right
. then from the republican controlled house of representatives, the top republican john boehner has rejected president obama's previous offers and the morse -- most senior democrat in the house, nancy pelosi. what is the cliff and can be avoided? >> the house of representatives will be going back into session sunday but at this point we do not know what kind of measure they have before them that they can consider for a vote. there has been no indication from the white house or the republican leadership that they are anywhere near any kind of makings of a deal that they could present to the house republican leadership -- or the house republican rank-and-file who so far have been adamantly opposed to tax increases at any level of income, which is an absolute prerequisite for president obama. if they do not come to some kind of agreement, but that tax to be voted on -- and there is doubt that it is logistically possible before new year's day -- then the most immediate impact would be the loss all unemployment relief checks for 2 million americans as well as payroll tax holiday that will come to
it's not as if he doesn't have an awfully strong hand to play. if it's a deal john boehner can accept, frankly, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a strong majority. if earn he's not neutral or favorable, his chances will be a lot slimmer. >> we will find out in the morning whether any progress came out of the senate leader mitch mcconnell's meeting with vice president joe biden. >> we've been asking you, our viewers, to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives. so let's close tonight with some advice from one of you to washington. >> my message to all of washington for the new year is to set partisanship aside working on behalf of 100% of the voters, fix this mess you've gotten us into, bring a balanced budget to the table to grow this economy for the long term not the short term. >> there you go. for the long term, not the short term. >> there you go. i'm don lemon. happy new year to you. jooirksz . >>> hello, i'm don lemon and this is cnn's top 10 of 2012. we look at the stories that captured our attention, what we see as the biggest
illegally have no heart, it almost killed his campaign. >> most dishonest, john boehner, republican speaker of the house. saying quote unquote, let's be honest, we're broke. we'll be right back with new years resolutions. ♪ [ music ] >>> new years resolutions, pat. >> get at list one book on nixon done this year. >> another one? >> one. >> can get cracking on my memoir, and also continue to jog so i can continue to stay healthy and continue to do combat. >> ensure that everything i put on twitter is completely accurate. >> are you going to do a memoir? >> no. >> really? >> write a book that responds to pat buchanan's last book. >> my new year's resolution is to not have such a heavy foot when i accelerate vehicles. we try to give it to you straight. celebrate the new year. bye bye. ♪ [ music ]
of market sense, then you're losing. if senator reid says something and speaker boehner says something else, nothing fundamental has changed. white stock investors are buying and selling based on political speeches is beyond me. host: what index will you be watching? here is a headline from the wall street journal -- what index will you be watching? guest: think consumer confidence is the big indicator. there are a number of ways to measure it. if you go back to the august debt ceiling deal, i think people did not even realize in washington, but you look at the data, he saw a major drop in consumer confidence around the time and it became clear that politicians were arguing and squabbling and were not coming to terms. i think that is a severe problem in this recession because consumer demand is not strong enough to propagate a strong economic recovery. anything that dampened consumer demand is a problem. watching these politicians not getting together, even if they get a deal, the damage there is down. you see your leaders not being able to take simple steps. the deal they are talking about
a significant development in the house hastert night. of course, john boehner took to the floor a billion that did not have the support of a majority of republican members. that's the way that republican speakers have operated for some time. he got less than half, his republicans. and a pron of democratic votes to pass the bill. a significant thing. they went through a bit of kabuki before that because the speaker had a republican conference, and they went through the motions of see figure -- seeing if they could get a bill with more spending cuts and couldn't. that's why we ended up with this result. >> help go through a couple of headlines here. the big headline out of the white house saying that they're raising $620 billion over ten years. on the other hand, you have others, cbo and depending on the political elements, some people saying that this is actually going to cost us $3.9 trillion over the next ten years in part because of amt and how things are associated. then you have the payroll issue which you mentioned, which apparently on average is going to increase people's taxes by a
, tongue in cheek and he's a comedian. >> there's a photo of mcconnell boehner. >> al-qaeda isn't in the same league as congress when it comes to terrorizing americans and links to this other article and the other article goes on to elaborate on the tweet and presumably taking the headline from the piece and linking to it, but dave brings up an interesting point when you tweet out something like this, and while retweets and things aren't your personal viewpoint, they could be viewed as such. and people say he's retweeting a link. >> juliet: the article, it's humorous article basically al-qaeda the official statements from al-qaeda saying, look, we're going to back off terrorizing you the united states because your congress people do enough during the so-called fiscal cliff showdown convinced the terrorists they had been outdone and said the idea of holding the entire nation hostage with a clock ticking until the ends of the year-- >> it wasn't terribly funny at all. but to dave's point when you're tweeting out links to articles like that, he didn't say here is a funny piece with
focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white house is pointing towards the senate as a place where we might get bipartisan cooperation. they think they have 10 republican votes for some kind of a plan that the president would propose that democrats in republicans in the senate could get together on and then ask speaker boehner to have a vote on it in the house. that could be a problem for speaker boehner because he could get a bill passed with that splits his republican caucus and puts in danger his re-election as speaker on january 3rd. kelly: that is a lot of talk going around in circles in washington right now. you're very optimistic something can be done but on the other hand there are several economist, juan, that predict indeed we'll go over the fiscal cliff and the inaction of congress has the potential of plunging the united states into another recession. that said, they can't afford to becoming a reality. >> so far they have been very fortunate that the markets have not reacted with pani
be a measure to require democratic support in the house which speaker boehner was not relying on then. you look at this lo the judgically, this is entirely possible to get through congress, the issue is, it is politically possible to get through congress? we don't know the answer to that. >> thank you, brianna keilar. >>> police are investigating whether nbc's david gregory violated d.c. gun laws when he displayed what he described as a 30-round magazine during a "meet the press" interview. >> here is a magazine that carries 30 bullets. isn't it possible that we got rid of ese and said you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn't it possible we could reduce the carnage? >> i don't believe that will make one difference. >> we don't know if that was authentic or a prop, but having a large-capacity ammunition device like a magazine is illegal in washington, d.c. if it holds more than ten rounds of ammunition, whether or not it's attached to a firearm. >>> los angeles, pushing up its gun buyback, in light of the newtown massacre it was originally set for next may. in
,000 a year as the president presented to speaker boehner? >> well, you know, i think that republicans have been willing to accept the idea thatevenue is going to have to be part of this solution. we also believe that the chuck schumer principle, which is $1 million, he ought to extend the rates for everybody under $1 million. that's something that if the democrats in the senate want to pick up a bill that passed in the house and amend it, send it back to the house, i think that's something that might pass. right now, we're at a stalemate because democrats haven't been willing to consider the issue of spending. all they want to deal with now is tax increases. that's bad for the economy. that hurts jobs. >> to that point, senator schumer, are there cuts to the budget you'd be willing to go along with at this point to avoid the fiscal cliff? if so, what are they? >> well, obviously, there are cuts in the budget. we know we have to cut some of the mandatory programs and do other cuts, but it has to be accompanied with revenues. willie, i'm getting a little more optimistic today. sometimes it's
david rivera to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january 17, 2012, the chair will now recognize members from lists smithed by the majority and minority leaders -- submitted by majority and minority leaders for morning hour debate. the chair will alternate recognition between the parties with each party limited to one hour and each member other than the majority and minority leaders and minority whip limited to five minutes each, but in no event shall debate continue beyond 11:50 a.m. the chair recognizes the gentleman from maryland, mr. hoyer, for three minutes. mr. hoyer: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, it was to my profound disappointment that i learned last night that the house would adjourn the 112th congress without providing assistance to the victims of superstorm sandy. i am joined today, mr. speaker, by many of my colleagues from the jurisdictions that -- whose people received the most damaging blow. though my district did not sustain the
not see the republican -- john boehner is working with the president to do anything. they do not do anything. they have -- they do not work with the president. i am wondering, why does he not work for the american people that they elected to do the american people business, not their business. host: thank you for calling. a live picture of the u.s. capitol. 7:23 in washington. some heavy rain and perhaps some snow. a. when terry mix are expecting in town. we mention that because the president is heading back into town. the senate and white house -- the senate and house are due back tomorrow. this is an politico. there is another piece of this morning that says the house member elect is also interested in the peak in the seat -- adapter the seat. springfield, va., lewis, an independent. caller: good morning. you could consider me a little bit pessimistic. i am actually looking at it as realistically as possible. i have a degree in macroeconomics. i believe that they all should be -- we should institute term limits on all of them. maybe a six-year term limit. they're all thinking of r
. >> they blame house republicans since john boehner hasn't been able to get them a deal to raise taxes. the name calling is getting ugly. >> american people don't understand the house of representative is operating without the house of representatives. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the council to representatives to get what they want. >>> and while it's true that the senate controlled democrats is working this week, they are not working on fiscal cliff matters and the house won't even be back to work sunday two-days before the end of year deadline. theoretically these guys have time to get something done here. it is also possible at today's meeting at the white house may be simply window dressing. >> see what happens ten hours from now. time now to take a look at who is talking and this morning we are hearing from charles krauthammer. >> last night on hannity he was talking about the looming fiscal cliff and the president's approach to negotiations. krauthammer giving his take on why a deal has not been reached yet. >> it has been very
. it was the last offer from the president to john boehner, the house speaker, before negotiations collapsed. it would do a few other thing like take care of the alternative minimum tax, protect taxpayers from the expansion of that burden. it would also raise medicare reimbursements for doctors or prevent them from falling, rather, extend unemployment benefits. the irony is that this is a much worse deal for republicans than they could have had earlier because it's not likely to include spending cuts or reforms of entitlement programs. at this point, republicans are knowing that they'll lose the tax debate are trying to figure out what are the least bad terms they can lose on. >> you mention that income level of $400,000. earlier, the speaker of the house had floated what he called the plan b that would allow cuts to expire on those making $1 million or more. republicans would not support that. why would they support this? >> well, many of them will not support this. but the dynamic that they're looking at is one that if you have a bipartisan bill go through the senate and a significant numb
boehner walked out of the negotiations with the president and then he walked out of the house of representatives and a total of his members to go home while we are four days away from going over the fiscal cliff. and his members, the house members are all on a tax payer paid vacation while the country is four days away from hitting the middle class when we go for the fiscal? so number one, speaker boehner, bring the house back now, shot to work. it's time for the house of representatives to do its work and show up. member to come as senator cardin said before, the ball, the ball right now is actually in the house of representatives court because the senate's has already passed the bill with a majority vote that would extend the middle class tax cuts and the bill is sitting right in front of the house of representatives. there is nothing and i mean nothing stopping the speaker from taking that bill up for a vote in the house of representatives today. nothing stopping it except for the fact that they are still on vacation around the country. and if we were to take up that bill,
's also a busy day because in washington, the 113th congress is going to be sworn in. john boehner elected to his second term as house speaker. if everybody can play nice and solve the country's problems, not just right now with the fiscal cliff, but in the new year when a whole host of other issues come to visit us. so, with the new year just days away but the change of the calendar year comes lots of changes in state laws. here's what we're going to be looking at, here's a look at what will be legal and illegal in the new year. >> well, alison, some laws made headlines. gay marriage was passed in maryland and maine and the recreational use of marijuana was passed in colorado and washington state. wait, there's more. much more. let's start with the laws that take effect on january 1st. so, in illinois and california, employers may no longer force their employees to post their accounts. speaking of job seekers, let's check out oregon. employers are not allowed to advertise a job listing in that state unless they are willing to hire the unemployed. in iowa, arsenic is banned in chicken feed
yankee cap and your infrequently worn nats hat. >> you could say the president gave john boehner a political mulligan. how is that for golf talk, america? >> there we go. >> who says i haven't been on the links? i wish i had my eye black, but i do have -- i should have put this on before the break. i can't do it. it goes on my wrist. >> the dress code was open for interpretation. >> ari melber charting new sartorial territory. that is a fetching color for you, chairman. >> thank you, thank you, ho, ho hey! >> kurt andersen, would you buy a too legit to mitt shirt? >> i have several. >> only capitol hill correspondent who may or may not be wearing boat shoes at this moment. >> how are you, my friend? >> luke russert joins the panel next on "now." look at those boat shoes. >> i'm just a brother looking for a cigar, book, and a fireplace. >> if you start running your hands through the mashed potatoes at the dinner table, everyone else does. >> the man who does not believe in unicorns, what do you think of the attitude regarding minorities in this country? >> nothing. >> terrific poi
to send is something that john boehner can sell to his caucus? >> it needs to be. look there has to be more savings. what the president has talked about is more revenue but the concern is, that if the revenue goes to more spending you haven't solved the deficit and the debt. the real secret to getting this thing working is getting economic growth that generates revenue rather than higher taxes. those are elements that we need to get a deal that works and that's why we think there's chance here if the president will come back with some of those savings in his proposal. adam: but here's, we had an economist on yesterday who has no skin in this game politically which gives her credibility to what she had to say. she said the most dangerous thing we could do to the economic recovery is raise taxes. tte president clearly will not give on that point. he is going to raise taxes. if she's accurate, that the worst thing we could be doing right now. why would republicans give in to that, even if it's on the top 2%? >> what republicans want to do is close loopholes and limit deductions, not
boehner. he issued a statement that included these words -- he says the president is the one who has never been able to get a yes. house passed legislation to avert the entire fiscal cliff canada and the president has never called for the senate to act on those skills in any way." it's part of a six-paragraph statement from the speaker of the house yesterday afternoon. guest: it's a lot of back-and- forth. it's a lot of finger-pointing. they should all be in the room. they should be working on this until it gets done. every member of congress should feel an obligation to be putting forth solutions. it seems to me that there are far more focus on the political gains or downside of various deals than there is the true effect this as on the country. host: even if they were in the room with all the principles and the five or six principles agreed to plan, could pass the republican house of the democratic senate? guest: it depends what is in the plan. so far what we've seen is plans that are getting smaller and smaller. they are saying we cannot do this and things are getting taken off the tabl
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